Hey, Thanks for the input guys... The "Centaur" has both human & animal features so I can experience modeling both types quad/bipedal. The "Oliphant" body doen't look to challanging. But the armor seems intricate. I wonder if thats nurbs converted to polys or subd's The "TRex" is just cool. But its been done to death. The "Dragon", is this on Dvd? Or is it a online tutorial only? I'll way my options................I wish some the dvd authors would append their opinions in this thread :zzz: Regards Fess