thanks I've never animated a character before and i mainly use books as a refference for animating, it took me several hours to make him throw away his stick and force-grab his lightsaber:headbang: , the character as a whole needs a lot of secondary motion to make it look more real so the lighting part will be something i will be worrieying about much later, but thanks for the heads up edit: i didn't know it would "render"out as a weblink (smart ass :p )