hey - thanks velociraptor1! I must admit that stegosaurus kind of got pushed to one side - i might just have to dig him out and see if i can't get him finished.

mirek - sorry mate - must have missed your post. yeah - it definitely seems as though nurbs are a 'bit take it or leave it'. I definitely think that you can do things with nurbs that you can't with polys and vice versa - sometimes i'll start making something with nurbs cos it's actually easier to get the basic shape and then convert - like for making a mouth or belly - if you start with nurbs it can really help get your edgeloops in the right place...anyway, sorry for the late reply.