Alphaflyte Thanks. I didnt think you were in a hurry or short, your comments were fine. I dont mind crit on any model, as long as its constructive Im fine with it. Its the only way to learn, otherwise we become blinded by our own creations - thank goodness for forums!! If I get a chance I'll post up the concept sketch of this guy. Its A3 sized so I may have to scan it at work - I'll see what I can do Cheers Jay