thanks for the tip about the window.., I would have missed that, although I did wonder if sinking it past the wall was what you meant, and it was, naturally because thats how it is in 'real' life. I will obey

Steve, mate I just wanted to see some colour, I will do the textures in PS but Im stealing time to do this.., I have no time, I am about to start post sound, all of it (its a uni, not a production house) for 4 movies, plus another I did that the uni wants to make.., only one minute but it has a very strong anti-drug theme to it.., 'you do it you die,' (metaphorically at the very least( .., doesnt get much heavier than that.., and all in 60 seconds.., but speaking of time.., I have none so bare with me

cheers guys