Thanks backstabbing! Ok joopsin, i fixed the chin and pulled an all nighter... well i went to bed at 3, but i meant to pull an allnighter! This is the skeleton key. VERY old, tarnished, and rusted. Detailed as much as a skeleton key can be (will detail the skull a bit more). The key of keys! So old that all signs of sparkle, shininess, or beauty has passed, possibly from the darkest depths of the ocean. Thats the look i was going for. Please let me know if I hit it!