"The first thing you’ll notice is the new initializing window" Who cares about that :p just kidding ... isnt there a way to change it anyway if you dont like it? Decided to get 8.5 instead of 2008 as i really dont need it i reckon. All the tools i need are in 8.5, so its all good. Just cant wait till i get my quad-core and run 8.5 on it and see how that goes (MAN they changed the tools all around the place ... looks good but i struggle to find stuff now! urggh gotta relearn the UI :angery