Originally posted by Turbo Dan i have a job in 3d and anyone in the 3d industry would never bring up such an ignorant discussion in the first place. when you grow up you develop an eye for detail and logic, some have not clearly. in the studio I work in everybodys opinion is valued and if someone, including the directors, disagrees they would never come across arrogant and overheated. Everyone gets what you are saying, the two are not the same and you cannot get identical results, -appreciated It'll be great if we can now go back to those lovely renders of yours and you show your experience with stunning images instead of not so stunning rants.