Yeah , im not looking for Cinema tuts as there isn't any on character modelling. I have followed a tutorial in 3ds MAX for the Firefly (serenity) and i have never encountered a problem in the modelling because there is always a work around solution.

I really want to model characters and this site is the only one i have really seen with character downloads. so would the download videos of the character modelling be of box modelling similar to the free character model tutorial in the download section.

Hope this makes sense

what is the ninja character modelling like, is it good not so good

Simon