i agree mate and i dont see why i couldnt use mental ray or maya (which i know better) but the sub-contractor said 'you MUST know how to use V RAY' .., so i lost work?? .., i was disappointed.., i dont really want to learn another renderer.., but for money .., well we all sell ourselves in some way

anyway.., its the guys definitive attitude toward V Ray.., and he is a pro.., that started this thread

i know what you mean about the architectural render

sounds like the two apps are sharing the load., very nice

cheers