alright thanks for your help, that helps a lot. I've just been kind of curious. I have the dt maya to realflow integration dvd but it's just little things that I've been curious about before I dive into it. Thanks again for the help. And good luck on your dam animation (I can't help but find that funny sounding, haha) oh I came across a message board that seems pretty helpful for realflow https://www.realflowforum.com/