cheers.. i guess i am a little hard on myself.. i really want to rig him up properly and animate him.... yeah that backdrop.... i guess it was more experiment than anything, i wanted to see some shadows... only just found the "shadow" button lol, theres a little bit in excess of shiny, reflections... also just found the shiny button lmao . i have setup ik on his arms and legs.. i didnt put joints in his hands, cos i need to remodel them for animation over looks.. im haven trouble with his feet.. i think i need to use.. fk on them, for rotation.. but i dont know how yet. also need to get some cool texture.. bump maps on him, that will make him look.. a little less showroom shine.. but, i still havent grasped the concept of UV's yet either but im pretty happy with how he looks... putting all those pistons in took me a full day pretty much, and im happy with the way they turned out and they all work