thanks for the crits @neostrider - i dont remeber where i got the imga but it was already setup like that. @gster123 - ahh i see thank for pointing that out, i will work on it. @rollie - thanks im not going to replicate her 100% maybe 90%, as for modeling its all polygons, as for technique i use box modeling method for this, but there a great tutorial on edge flow here https://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=xls25e...eature=related