Originally posted by NitroLiq I think it's just instant karma for Vlad for all the times he lauded XSI over Maya after switching over...see dude? We knew you'd be back in one way or another. Originally posted by LauriePriest We should fess up, we did actually push autodesk to make the decission for precisely that reason. its gota be bad Karma, or autodesk is very business savy. buy your direct competitor and voila. ICE for maya. i cant wait to see how they start implementing soft's technology on maya's archaic architecture. its win win for us all i think tho. many times i apply for a job and i see experienced with maya or xsi prefered, rearely do i see LW or C4d or houdini. at least in future releases they will probably make exporting from one app to the other a breeze.:blush: