@rhetoric - no problem man, i know everything about making windows look good and work ^_^ also another thing to know if you want a clean desktop is to get the tweak UI pwertoy for XP then when you open that click on "desktop" (the word, not the plus sign beside it) and you can turn off the "My Computer", "My Documents" and, "Recycle Bin" icons on the desktop anywho... changed to blue :p now i need to find another bootskin and logon screen to go with it :p