Some of these people should get off their big fat elbows and try some of the things they think are so easy (sorry, i couldn't help myself, I was watching blackadder earlier today and it had the same joke in it) The thing is i knew C**T could be considered very offensive but have never heard of anyone seeing T*** as particularly offensive What is annoying though is who gets the credit. My brother was making a film for a competition at school and he wanted me to do an enormous amount of 3d (about 30 characters, moddeled, uv mapped, textured, rigged) and about 10min of animation, in about 3 months for it. Even if it was humanly possible i would have still refused because while i would have broken all laws of physics to do it on time come judging time i would probably get naf all credit while he would have spent about 10 hours max on it (more likely 5 hours) and have got all of it I really dont know why im getting so worked up about it </rant>