Ok, sorry to you both, with all I've read on core 2 duo's and quad cores I thought I was lagging behind somewhat, it probably is just my graphics card, which I'll be upgrading soon if I can get some cash together. I 'm really new to the whole world of Pc's so I do apologize if I sounded moany, I know very little and it's just a pain when you have a world of ideas in your head but the hardware doesn't do what you want it to! I guess you know that yourselves! My respect goes out to everyone trying their best with what they've got!