wow!!! somhow this has 50 odd replys!!!!! i had no idea i havent been getting any emails about new replys...you must all think im a bit of a sh*t.... to every one who likes it......big big thanks stunna/Oculus/ aldudeau/BabyDuck/uwil and anyone else who wants a good tut...... heres the beat out there. https://63.172.126.113:8080/forums/sh...ighlight=lewis PureHate, tamia model kit, you get the car model and the blueprints nirsul, neat site, ill post it Nightshadow22, 4 weeks modeling part time after work etc...full time i think i could do it in under 2 weeks Darkware, me too worldofmaya, hdri map helps alot!! thanks again guys!!!! and sorry for not replying earlyer