Originally posted by Chirone oh i thought that was on purpose... you have three faces in the sky.. mufasa, a kermit the frog bear-like cartoon face and a warrior all looking ominously down at the evil trading ship (although the frog is smiling...) change the frog into something more serious like the other two looking angrily at the ship and you've got yourself omnisient (can't spell) beings who look down at the cruel traders and think bad things also, the tip of the dragon's tail looks a bit too square and so it looks like its been cut off (dunno if there was a tip to the tail and your camera setup just cut it off) yeah i think you shoud be able to pull off that scene of a dragon market. it does sound all blackmarket/underground stuff anmd with that ship there it just looks like it is blackmarket trading I had thought about leaving the mustafa one in, make it look like id been a bit clever, accentuate some features, but i think it clutters. I can see all 3 now. Damn it man, usually thats what i do... see faces in everything!! All the files for the ship, obj's, texture maps etc, I saved in a folder called 'slaveship', so its definitely got that stamped in my mind. And, yes, the tail, as the tip of the wing, are near the end of a very weighty do-list. Unfortunately, im still looking for ways to expand the picture further. I can see this stretching on for quite some time