Originally posted by Chirone hah, yeah dave has a good reason not to visit! that rock in the foreground is a bit funny. good that you made the faces in the sky a lot more subtle, now it's at the point where i see multiple faces that share some bits of cloud in common you don't need to change it though, i'm only kidding with you, i'm just trying to see faces where they arent glad the faces are subtle enough now...i think I need to move on from this,mayb put some finishing touches to it at a later date,its become more obsession than enjoyment. Ive learned a few lessons,i think ive reached a point where I need to move on. Got a couple of unwatched gnomon tutorials to go through,plus some ideas from zcentral.com. Need a good brainstorm session to figure out what to do next. Whether to carry on in the scene/mattepainting route,or go back to zbrush.dynamics? Rendering? The choices are endless!