Originally posted by bullet1968 I hear ya stwert. Thanks dave but I really cant. You have seen the model Im doing. Put it in perspective 0500 up 0600 drive to work work 11 hours, modelling and field survey on top of it. 1800 home work some more repeat ad nausem 5.5 days per week. You pussy LOL( only joking of course ) tbh I have similar days and when it's busy it hits around the 15-16 hour workdays.....