it will be very nice. if you can do that ... the charackter was by 70% complete modelled. body, arms, legs/stand. head a litle bit same hydraulic system and there are same old geometrys. but they are hiden... my outline is now very messy, im ashamed of myself... dont need to upload, send me mail (anton_yak@yahoo.de), or upload it, how you want, you have a choice i tested it again with optimeze scene,with only checked unkown nodes, with all things checked, and same logical things.. and by saving is the effect the same: fatal error... trying to save an recovery file.. but its a 1-3 kb big.. it happen at first time... wait for file/ answer