Word of warning on the gnomon tutes - they can get very glossed over in the approach, so just be aware. They tend to pause if a mistake is made making the whole thing very smooth, so if mistakes are made and you are learning, you may not necessarily know how to get out of the hole. Anyway carry on Bullet....over to you mate. Jay You're right and they also sometimes forget to explain certain things ( which you don't know if you're a beginner) or to include some textures. But they are ( again imo) better than let's say Digital tutors who keep overexplaining stuff and an unprofessional approach which drives me bonkers when I watch them. In my case I only buy tutorials because there is a certain thing explained, with that alien surfer dude tutorial on this site for instance I am wondering how the NCloth is connected to the rig, if it's an other way than using a wrap deformer and storing a preset in the NCloth menu I might pick it up when I get to rigging on of my characters ( as long as it's not pinting weights on the clothes as well I reall hate painting weights ) Again sorry for hogging the thread Bullit