@ Bullet - Yeah, you may be right... I think it must be his slightly bent nose that is playing tricks with me @ Acid - Hahaha, i got it the first time... I just forgot to mention it @ Jay - I think after spending some time on that head, i got used to it and never really noticed haha. Ahh alright, i understand now and will certainly work by that method. Since starting organic modelling, i have always had this feeling that everything had to be symmetric... but when i come to think of it now, oh man im totally wrong! BTW, awesome work on that project. By far the best model i have seen you done yet... Also just a question from me if you don't mind. When do you feel it is the appropriate time to bring something into zbrush? After seeing all these z projects looking so good, i want to step into it but fear its not the right time for me in general.