LOL have fun....the point of this madness was to help you...thats what is so damn good around here. We had some competition in a fun way...which is how it should be...and show you that Maya has MANY different ways of achieving one thing. So....if it doesnt work one way...there are plenty more to get you there! Dont get stuck in a rut thinking it can only be done one way...for most things...find a way which is quick but you are comfortable with and suits the task at hand. Enjoy mate

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