thx ct I appreciate it, and no its not for a class all the models that I've been putting up etc. are all for a personal project, and I've been making a Frankenstein folder for individual body parts, eye's hands, etc. as well. Joey: yea i found a good reference pic last night that i was going to use and still might, just when 3am goes around my will power drops down to almost nothing :p but even though ct gave me a set i'll probably still try modeling them out myself. here's the ref i'm gonna use. https://www.drotterholt.com/docs/ToothChartAdult.jpg