Oh I noticed the creases in the seat, I combed it over good and proper lol. And about the new primitive vs dupe face, I should have been more clear. I was curious as to whether you look for suitable faces to dupe regardless if it needs to contour before you consider making a new primitive. Like would you dupe and flatten a face instead of say making a new poly plane. Just wanted to check and see if I was a weirdo haha.