Hey Dave sounds great, yes let me know. I was going to go today for a spot of carp fishing but the weather is just not doable right now Had I built the basemesh in maya first then yeah I would of done it the other way but these characters are purely from a zbrush dynamesh sphere...no maya. They are/were purely for concept. But I was pretty pleased with the way they turned out so I will convert them to a polymesh and use zremesher to obtain some decent geo...Then I will tidy that in maya then bring back into zbrush to reproject the details... Theres so much choice on how to do stuff, its just a case of finding your own thing.. hope that helps Jay