M and wicket. thanks for the C+C you were right. the crain look was not good.. I was just pleased with my self for making that.. (LOL sighs) so anyway.. how about this tell me what you think now ? M the hunnycomb part was done buy extruding faces backwards. Would be nice on my Ram if it were a texture. but I wanted it real so the hosses and fiberOPt could go in them.