thankx pony ..I did do the screen shot but somehow it didnt paste to paint anyway I must be doing something wrong .. I'm sure its the graphic card now coz when I reopened the file everything looked fine then I rendered and the stuff show up in the render ..so I guess ill have to let my pc relax a bit before it doesnt reboot lol.. anyawya still working on the girl ..as I said I aint gonna stich or anything she's gonna be small probably with some shader etc ... M thankx for the help ...ironicly it showed up in the render and not in my scene as I said im going to forget about it cos its my graphic card need to get a better one .. Thankx ..kisses