wow, looking nice here's a screenshot I haven't yet finished the code for the projectiles, which is why they are comming out of the side of the ship :p (needs tweaking), and also why they are so close together (rate of fire is not controlled yet) I shot one of the previous images I was using, as you can see *cough* it looks *crap*, thanks guys :banana: I'll try out the Mel stuff you told me now vectorman, that would be *very* cool if I can get stuff moving :banana: Cheers vectorman, M, and everyone