Originally posted by Dann Sorry. I do apologize for annoying you. It's just that I've been a 3D artist for a dozen years or so, and now I'm having to learn Maya. I just find that everything I try to do, that I could do in 10 minutes in Max, takes me hours to figure out in Maya. It's just very frustrating, but you are right. I will be more respectful or this board, and more thankful to those that are just trying to help. Again, I'm sorry. No harm done. Welcome to SimplyMaya mate.