Originally posted by caligraphics Eeek no boleans !!! im definately not a fan of them they mess up the surface and add more geometry to your model and you loose control .. Thats my oppinion anyway LOL, yea man.. I definately agree... haha. Booleans in all programs are messy, especially 3ds max!! I like your technique, could you ever make a short video so i further understand what your saying? If not I think I understand, just i could be wrong. To the "IT"..that is really nice. I really like the model. The tire though could of used some grip . Very cool though! Very cool indeed .