Hi, I did the VTM on the 'Simple Man a couple of weeks ago, and everything went OK... (In fact so good that Man turned into Woman ) But I had a Virus prob and had to restart all over.......... Strange thing is.. even at the first part of tutorial, i get wierd "sausage shapes" when I extrude the faces of body...? I have re-set a few tolls but dunno why this is happening? Can someone please help a noob...? Regards Scraggy Here is a piccy of my poor looking man...