thanks.. iv'e been modeling for an year now.. but this was a really funny model i truely just started making shapes. i just said "hey lets make a mouth.. " then " hey this looks like a nose.. lets shape it up a tad more.. " lol so it is funny also yea i know i post as hard edges so you can see the topolgy abit more.. ill show smoothed version as its a bit more defined i like the hard edges ,i like the whole cubism.. sometime i make a fully model to be smoothed and i say " wow hard edge looks so cool" and i leave it as is )