thanks. goal achieved. It's meant to look spooky. my mad scientist has to shower. j/k but I am going for the serial killer - pyscho mad type scientist - I'm doing the mad wall at the moment - but its a largely textural job so... SCREAMSSSSSSSSSS..... later... (depending on what shot I'm using, I'm swaping walls (in/out onto layers) so I can bypass the "4th wall". Oh, the tub is there cause he'll need somewhere to collect that yummy blood. Mmmm... Actually with the tub I meant to pop in a floating head (but its too much work for this stage in time and it'd be gruesome) and some more body parts and some icecubes. Depends on how I go. I kept the body parts to hands at the moment cause I wanted to keep a motif running - slapping torso and legs on will be just too chaotic - I modelled a quick leg and it looked wrong so I chucked it out.