OK I have never done a Character before, and really want to but just in case the going get's tough I will model the character and just see how it turns out. So with that in mind I will pick Numero Uno the Space thingy. At least that way I don't have to submit if it's naff. Hey BTW tell Kevin thanks I nicked his 'Simple Man' tutorial to see how hard characters are.... And I like thes e Subdiv's BTW Can I use Subdiv's? they are only sort of Poly's aren't they? (please excuse my lack of understanding the basics) Oh yeah BTW How do I Un-Triangulate? I had to Cntrl-Z out. Regards Scraggy