Hmm, would that work OK? I have had problems finding 'Understandable' Tutorials that make Characters, all the ones I came across were either NURBS or something. [I looked on Boris] .. I remembered Kevin's because it was the first tutorial I ever did and was so easy to do. So what will happen when I convert my model to poly's? - will it get more 'Blocky' ? In fact don't answer - I will go and try it on that model. Natalia told me there may be some poly/character/tut's on Planethalflife/Planetquake so I will go check now.. J.I.C. my model turns into 'Lego Man' when I convert Anyway I won't spend too much time on the Character it's just because it's something i think is a MUST to learn to model, so want to give it a bash. "Why do we have to wear these ridiculous ties" "Who ate all the dohnuts?"