Computer:mingun: mtmckinley, Thanks and Ya. the texturing neads work. orgeeizm, Thanks. I do have a jeep but not the rubicon. I do not know if I would go so far as another brian ellebracht but thanks. Now for the bad news. I was able to get three renders before Maya desided it did not want to render agin. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. I am about to see how well a monitor flies.