Chipper, Thanks.. The bionic leg.. LOL.. I am defininly planning on putting more stuff in. I just haven't got to it yet.. I have it all planned out.. I just got sidetracked. Need to fix a cuple of things befor I start on the leg. Mike.. thanks !!!! as above.. oh I think it looks way to sparse like it is, also. yep.. I'm dreaming of being able to move on to Arwen myself. Chris, thanks !! yeah it seemed like a cheep shot to me to break up the texture using spots.. I meen if I wanted spots just for spots, thats one thing.. but for them to be required for something else to look right isn't very good IMO. Cheers to all .. thanks !