Rick
no not using her for body ref. I weighted that out because I just need to concentrate on getting this done and not worry about any thing getting started in the thread. Would rather spend my time modeling right now than defending FULL ref pic's, or nipples on models. Maybe I didn't need worry about keeping thoughts things off but I just was being careful.

I was going to use tam for some of the references but I need to get moving so I'm shooting from the hip and using the ref when I get confused.

got the hands and feet done good. Working on the face right now..