haha yes why didnt i think of the soccer ball, im just so used to creating poly objects from the shelf tab compared to the bigger variety of the create menu, thanks


and again yes, the overall glow attribute is the place to be, it seems that the sun and sky lighting is affecting the halo of the glow,(in my scene its causing a large blown out white area around the tiny objects i have with glow on), so yea messing around with these settings is getting me a far better result, thanks again