Hahaha, a very interesting debate going on! I've been using references, the brain part was done using an Alpha I made from an actual image of a brain, and I've been using the reference to enhance it from there. And I will be using references for other parts of the body, I had already planned to do that where needed. Apart from that, I don't presume I will ever be good enough to work in the industry, I'd love to, and will practice modeling both simple reference based objects (which I already do but don't bother posting here as I don't think it'd be as interesting for people to look at) and more creative models too. First and foremost I'm an artist, I create stuff, whether it be in 2d, 3d, storytelling, or any other form because to be honest I have to. I don't really have much choice in the matter, I get bored, frustrated and a little depressed if I can't! So if I ever do get good enough to enter the industry, at any level, I'd be constantly striving to get to a creative position. Concept modeler or Creative consultant, that kind of role. If I don't get there, so be it, I'll get some people together and write, direct, and create my own animated features. May sound far fetched to some, but I bet the people who have already done it, some from nothing, didn't let it stop them trying! Anyhow, next post should be an update of some progress hopefully.....lol