Hi Bullet Thanks and the hours aren't the worst part, because I always want to get the best out of it, I keep revising the model which costs a lot of time and gives you the feeling that it is not coming along as fast as it should. but if I look back at page 1 till now it is a decent progress (skillwise that is) I just spend 5 hours of my life trying to paint a decent handpainted skintexture and without exaggerating... it is very very hard to get it right, which I hope I have. If someone can give me some pointers it is much appreciated See my progress below C & C is most welcome of course