ROFLMAO 3DStudent will always find a way to keep talking I just wasted an hour or more, my power went out and I hadn't saved...... Arghh I just noticed this thread is in the Technical Lounge, no-one really understands what is said here which is why alot of people wouldn't browse here looking for something good. I believe if you'd asked for help in the Maya Basics and Newbie lounge David or Miss_Nova (or one of many others) would have had your problem sorted within the first day.