Cheers Jay, Its Vue 5 Infinte that im using, and its the standalone version. Some of the vegetation i created in maya and exported it as an obj to vue, i then textured it in vue aswell. Vue is an awesome program and i definatly reccomend it, and i didnt even kno the ILM uses it. wow. Cheers Jay. Oh by the way anything ud like to see changed or added? Thanks