@ younglion - yer got that and the only real good thing about it is a pluggin called easyflex that helps set up the cloth. the videos only covers only covers the basic garments like t shirts and dresses,- but i want to do is have both if not more. - take to the next level so to speak. the final thing sould be ready the first week of jan 07 as its hoiladay time and i`m making this in my spare time not as a job thing (still getting paid for it though.:attn: ) if i can learn this stuff in 4 weeks than anyone can