copycat meaning I have the tut open on one screen with maya open 2 others follow the tut move by move ........ that's not me, I get no satisfaction. right now I need to concentrate on modeling and texturing, which I'm just getting started with...... as for cabinets, dunno, I think I'm good pieces have been published couple times in designer magazines judge for yourself (turn your speakers down) https://66.92.45.210/ the 1st cabinet in the display is the one I'm going to try to model & texture first (don't mean to hijack this thread)