Yeh since I am very new to all this, I am having a hard time wrapping my head around light, lol. What do you mean when you say textured geo, and by light carsd do you mean, say a spotlight with a card attached to the back, or like an area light. As for the 3 point lighting, no, it was just a shadow with ray tracing enabled. Also whats a rim light? Thanks heaps for your help guys, I'll get there eventually.