Hello Kurt Just spent the weekend listening to your voice on the organik modeling part2.... Anyway, about turning my polygons to Subd ... I was worried because once my polygons were converted to Subd, the vertices didn't seem to connect at some part of my model ... Looking through the organic tutorial I realised that I just had to press 3 to smooth the whole thing so that's it really... I'm not stuck anymore! Cheers : )